The EZA Community Top 20 Best of 2020!
Axel last edited by Axel
#12. Cyberpunk 2077 - 15 points
#1: 1 (ffff0)
#2: 1 (Brandon_Reister)
#3: 1 (Exist 2 Inspire)
HM: 3 (Sentinel Beach, TokyoSlim, Hazz3r)
Release date: December 10 [US/EU]
Developer: CD Projekt Red
Publisher: CD Projekt
Genre: Action role-playing
PS5, Xbox Series X/S, PS4, Xbox One, PC
Brannox last edited by Brannox
To briefly repeat what I said in the voting thread:
"And a note about a game I won't vote for: CyberPunk 2077. I can't say, "I own a game I refuse to start until it's in a better state," without it being mega obvious, but at some point in the future I will play it. However, that won't come until we're long done."
With how Cyberpunk has had its first six months on the market (at least, all but Sony. I see what you did there @Axel ;-] ), I just don't know how long it's going to be until it gets better for me to feel comfortable in starting it. Yes, I own it, but I'll wait, however long that'll take. It may have been an honorable mention from me, maybe even it making my top four if I end up liking it, but as it stands, I probably won't know for sure what I ultimately come down on it until well into 2022 at this rate.
However, I do want to credit it for getting enough people having an enjoyable experience to have votes. And I guess that's what I want: A great first experience. It's amazing really; one of, if not THE most anticipated game in years, if not the ENTIRE generation at LEAST. Despite how it launched, it still owns two of my several overall favorite E3 moments of all time. I haven't even played the thing yet and I have quite a list of conflicting feelings about it.
DIPSET last edited by
I’m pretty shocked this made the list because it has no business being here. Even on PC is was a buggy shitty headache and even when it worked, the game design felt so half baked. Swimmin in 7’s, not GOTY that’s for sure.
bam541 last edited by
C2077 being released the way it is just makes me even more hungry for a good new big sci-fi game to dive into.
Shoulderguy last edited by
I gave my thoughts on Cyberpunk 2077 in the Disappointment of the year topic:
Cyberpunk 2077 is definitely not the worst game I finished in 2020, but this should have been an easy top 10 game for me, and a potential GOTY.
There is so much right with it, like what Cyberpunk does with world design, story and characters. But there's so much more wrong with it. Such as crashes (I had more than 20 crashes), constant random bugs and many other performance issues. It even crashed during the final credits!
Also this game has some of the worst AI I've seen in recent years and it needs a serious rework. The big crowds look nice but when you interact with anything, you see how broken all of the NPCs are. Even in combat the AI pretty much just waits for me to kill them.
It's a disappointing game for sure, but with more development time and with the proper PS5 version, I hope they can find a way to fix these issues. Because like I said, it does do a lot of things right.
JDINCINERATOR last edited by
CyberPunk's controversial existence does it no favours but I'm convinced that without the bugs and the vitriol it would be considered a good game though GOTY might be stretching it. Between CyberPunk and The Last of Us Part II-there was no shortage of divisiveness when it came to videogame releases in 2020.
ffff0 last edited by
I feel like if I try say everything I want to say about Cyberpunk 2077, I’ll be writing this post until tomorrow, so I’ll try to be brief. But probably this still be a long post because this game blew my mind in so many ways.
This is an incredibly immersive game – I often RP when I play RPGs in one way or another, but in Cyberpunk 2077 it went out of control. I refused to equip gear that doesn’t fit my character’s style no matter how good its stats were. I even took shopping tours around the city to find matching shoes for my new skirt. And I did all of this in a first-person game! Besides clothing, I was thinking for reasons to do this particular side quest now (or at all), to do it this particular way, and also how quest’s outcome affects V’s personality. Finally, as an obsessed gamer I wanted to see different endings, but I knew that only one path makes sense for my heroine, so instead of loading save, I’ve started brand new game with another character. And then I did it again to see the third possible path.
Currently I’ve completed 5 playthroughs (240 hours total). And it’s not just branching quests that make replaying worthwhile, it’s insane amount of history and lore. I’ve read all in-game documents I could find, 3 books that came with collector’s edition, another art-book, an official guide and even Cyberpunk 2020 rulebook, and I still feel like I’ve only scratched the surface of this world. The most amazing thing however is that all this history doesn’t feel like shackles – even though V and other prominent characters have very defined background, you can still express yourself and find your own place in this massive world.
Speaking of world, this probably is the best open-world I’ve ever seen. Dense places, sparce places, boring places, big crowds, lonely people, emptiness, uplifting spots, depressing spots, planes, verticality – there’s so much diversity and so many details. Nothing ever feels like a video game level planted in open-world environment – everything feels like an actual place that people of this city have built or repurposed. Even city’s layout feels like an actual city, not like a condensed videogame version of a city. In one of my playthrough I mostly drove, in another I mostly walked – and different travel speed have completely changed my perception of the same environments. I often experienced this in reality, but it was the first time I’ve experienced this in games.
Night City is even more attractive thanks to wonderful art direction and groundbreaking visuals. This of course is highly depended on the power of your rig, but even on my mid-range GPU (RTX 2070 Super) this felt like a completely new gen. I’ve spent multiple hours in photo mode, I’ve launched the game when I had only 15 minutes just to walk on the street – basically, I took every opportunity to admire this world and take in its beauty. Raytracing in Cyberpunk 2077 is the best on the market by a mile, and even Control feels like a prior-gen game now.
Beside visuals, there are other groundbreaking technical aspects here. Animations excels even games from Rockstar and Naughty Dog – characters constantly interact with props and other objects in the environment, and they even give items to each other and to you. And all of this happen outside of cutscenes! Streaming is exceptional – you can ride through incredibly complex city districts at full speed and game will never slow you down to load assets. There are probably many other incredible things that I don’t understand – I’m not a game developer.
This post is going out of hand, so here are some quick shout outs to other just-as-much-deserving aspects. Music is fantastic, both in-game implementation and just as a standalone soundtrack. Night City inhabitants speak multiple languages, and it was a genuine delight to hear Russian speech & understand it, and to hear other non-English speech & don’t understand it. Story feels personal and impactful and it’s just the kind of narrative I like. Characters feel like real people dealing with real and relatable issues. And there are also so-called Hidden Gems – bitesize single location stories that aren’t marked on the map, but very much worth seeking (lots of them are fun easter eggs or callbacks to popular media).
I’ve said that Half-Life: Alyx is a game that divide gaming on before and after. Cyberpunk 2077 is also just this kind of game. In some way the excellence of Cyberpunk 2077 has ruined other games for me, and I highly doubt I’ll play anything nearly as good in 2021 or maybe even in 2022. So of course, Cyberpunk 2077 is my GotY.
P.S. I usually don’t do this, but thank you @Brandon_Reister , @Exist-2-Inspire , @Sentinel-Beach , @TokyoSlim and @Hazz3r for your votes. I knew that Cyberpunk 2077 will not win any awards here, but it’s a game that absolutely deserves to be on the list.
Axel last edited by
Cyberpunk 2077 is still one of my most anticipated games, 6 months after its release...
I hope that with its inevitable next-gen re-release, whether it's late this year or next year, I'll eventually play this game and have an absolute blast with it.
It wasn't ready for 2020, but I don't mind waiting.
Phbz last edited by Phbz
I loved Cyberpunk but at the same time it should not be out yet. There's a reason why Naughty Dog and Rockstar keep iterating on the same idea since forever, it's because videogames are extremely complex. Cyberpunk was too big of a shift and too ambitious for its own good. On top of that, 2020 was probably the worst possible year to release a game like this.
Shout out to the world, Nightcity is in it self an achievement of game design, feels like an entity. Also to the narrative driven moments, where it builds on top of their previous works and imo cdpr is an absolute industry leader. That is when bugs, glitches and the general unpolished state don't get in the way, which happens often.
Mega shout out to Skippy, probably my favourite gun ever.
Sentinel Beach last edited by
Cyberpunk's a good game. I had a good time playing it. Didn't even meet any big bugs except for the PS4 version crashing on PS5 after every two hours or so. Didn't stop me from enjoying the world, characters and plot. Gonna take a new run on the eventual current-gen version in the future.
El Shmiablo Banned last edited by
Personally I am very excited to play Cyberpunk 2077 when it finally comes out in 2023.
DIPSET last edited by DIPSET
*Also this game has some of the worst AI I've seen in recent years and it needs a serious rework.
CP77 has 2000s-era shovelware AI. In some missions there are civilians in the middle of your shootouts. If you or an enemy tags one, which is inevitable, the police magically know you did that and respawn magically indoors with a 3 star wanted rating to try to kill you while you’re already in the middle of a shootout for the story mode. You’d think if anything the police are more concerned with the gang hideout but nope.
It’s not just police AI though. I’ve been in full stealth (which isn’t very fun in a world where TLOU2 exists), and magically the enemy AI just knows I’m there and goes into hostile mode. But they don’t change their patterns, they just scream like combat is happening. This happened so many times.
Then when you do fight in combat intentionally, AI is just aggressive. Not really much thought to it. Not to mention that I mainlined science pistols (I forget the true name) and there is a bug where they outright don’t shoot no matter what. CDPR claims it’s patched but when I played it last in February, it was still broken and I need to relaunch the game for my guns to even work.
Then in the open world there is nothing more immersion killing than braindead AI routines. I’ll be driving and one of the cars the spawns within eyesight then proceeds to struggle to path down the road.
Again, I’m shocked this game made the list because there are things that go beyond bugs and glitches like the fact there isn’t any thought out into enemy encounters and combat. Just aggressive AI.
ffff0 last edited by
Again, I’m shocked this game made the list because there are things that go beyond bugs and glitches like the fact there isn’t any thought out into enemy encounters and combat.
This shouldn't be surprising at all. Firstly, we all have different tastes and priorities, so what is show-stopper for one isn't an issue for another. For example, bugs doesn't bother me at all. Secondly, games are interactive media so everyone have different experience. During my first playthrough of Cyberpunk 2077 (more than 60 hours) I've encountered 4 noteworthy glitches. While playing Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales (8 hours) I've encountered 7. Based on my experience, Miles is much more buggy game than Cyberpunk.
DIPSET last edited by
I guess I'm speaking less to the bugs and more towards the fact that the AI just isn't really developed. I'd argue police AI is especially just non-existent. They spawn into the middle of your missions and their only mode is aggression. Likewise, enemy AI in those story missions where you sneak around a base sometimes just follow the same short path or don't move at all. When some enemies just stand put guarding a hallway without moving, I then get to questioning myself whether it's broken or they literally just didn't give this AI anything to do.
AI like this is on par with some of the worst games I've ever played like Shellshock 2. Like, we're talking objectively bad and broken AI, not necessarily bugs or glitches. The type of stuff that would get roasted over a fire if this were a Ubisoft or EA game.
TokyoSlim last edited by
I didn't encounter many bugs or glitches in Cyberpunk on a PC I built specifically to play Cyberpunk that I thought were egregious. (I know other people had more problems, but they are free to rate or not rate their own experiences) A few T-Pose models, occasional car spawning out of nowhere. That's about it. Framerate (while it did go up and down throughout the patch cycle) it was always playable for me.
I thought that both the shooting and the driving felt satisfying. I liked the story.
An honorable mention here because there was some detail work left glaringly unfinished, like the sidequests or cutscenes where for example, the bartender will point out a specific thing to order - but then there's no option to order that thing from their vendor menu. Aside from that, it's a game I'll happily replay at some point.
Hazz3r last edited by
The first 6-10 hours of Cyberpunk 2077 are magical. And then the cracks start to show.
Night City as a play space is not the world that was promised in Trailers. There's more fun to be had in Grand Theft Auto 4 in terms of open world activities.
Chromanticore is an abomination. It's transphobic as hell given the almost complete lack of trans representation outside of the advert and a blight on an otherwise decent game.
The biggest problem with Cyberpunk is that they spent so long trying to make it work that they ran out of time to make it as good as it could be.
But, the Main Quest is absolutely incredible and I shall almost certainly play it again at some point. The missions were straight out of Grand Theft Auto 6 in terms of design and structure. The writing was great and the plot was fascinating. I was deeply moved by the end. Which is why I think it at least deserved an honourable mention.
Oscillator last edited by
The missions were straight out of Grand Theft Auto 6 in terms of design and structure.
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Axel last edited by
#11. Astro’s Playroom - 16 points
#2: 1 (HappyGaming)
#3: 1 (DemonPirate)
#4: 2 (DIPSET, NeoCweeny)
HM: 5 (Axel, Sentinel Beach, Nimbat1003, Lotias, iboshow)
Release date: November 12 [US], November 19 [EU]
Developer: Team Asobi
Publisher: Sony Interactive Entertainment
Genre: 3D platformer
Brannox last edited by
With no PS5, there's no way for me to play this, though when I do get one, I'm curious to try it. Granted, from what I've heard/seen, it's nothing really more than a tech demo to showcase the Dualsense packed to the brim with Playstation history/Easter eggs. It won't be the first thing I'll play when I have the console (that'll go to either FF VII: Remake: Intergrade or R&C: Rift Apart, and maybe even Kena: Bridge of Spirits if it'll still take months with EXTREMELY good luck), but I DO hope I come away with a better view of it. I'm not really interested, buy hey, free game, can't hurt to try it out and at least it's purely jolly AND it being a very short, contained time.
Shoulderguy last edited by Shoulderguy
Astro's Playroom is fairly short and simple. But it's a great showcase for what the controller can do. And it was also cool seeing all the classic PlayStation nods along the way. With this game and Sackboy: A Big Adventure, Sony released two very jolly platformers in 2020. And I can always go for more of those.