Final Fantasy XV delayed



  • ^^ I haven't seen it but I heard there are videos of people playing that Platinum Demo so smoothly that it looked like a pure action game. If that is the case than these players are either God-tier nerds or maybe there is more to the combat than we think.

    I played the demo and it felt janky. Like looking up to find a glowing section to teleport to felt so clunky to me.



  • @Haru17 Good point. Also, great profile picture. Love Code Geass!



  • Confirmed by Square Enix just now. Don't mind me i'm just looking at this trainwreck.



  • Here is the announcement

    Youtube Video



  • @Stephleref said in Final Fantasy XV delayed:

    Confirmed by Square Enix just now. Don't mind me i'm just looking at this trainwreck.

    The delay is precisely to prevent a trainwreck.
    While I do think that the game has suffered from too many managerial problems over the course of the development of it, I don't think this will be another Duke Nukem Forver story.



  • @Stephleref said in Final Fantasy XV delayed:

    Confirmed by Square Enix just now. Don't mind me i'm just looking at this trainwreck.

    I think it's a step in the right direction, even for me not even really being interested in the game. If they can polish it to a level that I can consider near perfect on console I might be convinced to buy it.

    And by THAT time of the year I have nothing on my release window besides Pokemon Sun/Moon, so I'll be able to play it without neglecting anything.

    It's honestly really good news.

    If they had released it next month and it had the same issues people knew it had at E3 it would've destroyed this game on the first day when all the gaming publications start confirming everyone's fears.



  • @suplextrain said in Final Fantasy XV delayed:

    @Stephleref said in Final Fantasy XV delayed:

    Confirmed by Square Enix just now. Don't mind me i'm just looking at this trainwreck.

    The delay is precisely to prevent a trainwreck.
    While I do think that the game has suffered from too many managerial problems over the course of the development of it, I don't think this will be another Duke Nukem Forver story.

    No this is Square once again proving to be another Peter Molyneux,that they are a shadow of the company they once was,that their ability to hype and announce stuff far far exceeds their ability and talent to make games and that they can't please their fans in a timely matter to save their life.

    ENOUGH WITH THE FUCKING EXCUSES! I'm sick and tired of it. Enough is enough, What is it gonna take for people to admit they are screwing up? There is always a defence or excuse to somehow turn this trainwreck of a company and franchise into something glorious and positive even tho the last truely great game in the franchise was 15 years ago.



  • @Stephleref said in Final Fantasy XV delayed:

    @suplextrain said in Final Fantasy XV delayed:

    @Stephleref said in Final Fantasy XV delayed:

    Confirmed by Square Enix just now. Don't mind me i'm just looking at this trainwreck.

    The delay is precisely to prevent a trainwreck.
    While I do think that the game has suffered from too many managerial problems over the course of the development of it, I don't think this will be another Duke Nukem Forver story.

    No this is Square once again proving to be another Peter Molyneux,that they are a shadow of the company they once was,that their ability to hype and announce stuff far far exceeds their ability and talent to make games and that they can't please their fans in a timely matter to save their life.

    I think that comparison is a little odd. Molyneux is known to be a headache for his marketing department since he can't keep his mouth shut. He is too ambitious and promises things that never makes it into the game.
    Square Enix has actually started to turn around now with the recent change in management and they haven't made any Molyneux like promises. FF15 is a remnant of their bad times, but their more recent products like I am Setsuna, Nier 2, FF7 remake and so on show signs of massive improvement. You can see that unlike many other companies they actually think about their fans and react to them.

    ENOUGH WITH THE FUCKING EXCUSES! I'm sick and tired of it. Enough is enough, What is it gonna take for people to admit they are screwing up? There is always a defence or excuse to somehow turn this trainwreck of a company and franchise into something glorious and positive even tho the last truely great game in the franchise was 15 years ago.

    What excuses? I already admitted that they fucked up.
    Also I would argue that 9, not 10, is their last "great" game if we're being picky. 10 is where it all started to go wrong (13 is also very similar to 10). 12 showed signs of improvement but it still had issues.
    But even FF9 had a bunch of issues (mostly tied to the gameplay and the story towards the end).

    Seriously, what is it you want to hear? People saying that SE are assholes and that FF15 will be utter shit? What?



  • @Stephleref said in Final Fantasy XV delayed:

    @suplextrain said in Final Fantasy XV delayed:

    @Stephleref said in Final Fantasy XV delayed:

    Confirmed by Square Enix just now. Don't mind me i'm just looking at this trainwreck.

    The delay is precisely to prevent a trainwreck.
    While I do think that the game has suffered from too many managerial problems over the course of the development of it, I don't think this will be another Duke Nukem Forver story.

    No this is Square once again proving to be another Peter Molyneux,that they are a shadow of the company they once was,that their ability to hype and announce stuff far far exceeds their ability and talent to make games and that they can't please their fans in a timely matter to save their life.

    ENOUGH WITH THE FUCKING EXCUSES! I'm sick and tired of it. Enough is enough, What is it gonna take for people to admit they are screwing up? There is always a defence or excuse to somehow turn this trainwreck of a company and franchise into something glorious and positive even tho the last truely great game in the franchise was 15 years ago.

    While I'm not happy with SE and haven't been since FF7 (Yeah, I didn't like FF7. FF6 was the ultimate and went downhill after) there's no correlation with your comparison.

    Molyneux had a habit of promising things that never made it into his games, every....single....game. Square hasn't done that.

    They're definitely guilty of ignoring fans and instead of making games based on what people want they just do their own thing (Like nintendo frequently does now) but nothing as shady as Molyneux has done.

    Everything they've released over the last decade and a half have been precisely what they advertised and hyped, was any of it worth it? Depends on who you ask. I thought FFX was the most overhyped over-rated game they've ever made, but a lot of people think it's the best game they've ever made.

    FFXV isn't in that situation yet, we don't know anything yet. The game is DONE, but they're holding it back until a day one patch is finished, how many games release with day one patches now? Almost all of them. I can wait for this, but like me it sounds like you don't even want the game....so why are you even worried about it?



  • Guys, come on, it's 2 months. If they'd delayed it for another 6 or 9 months, okay, but 2 months is nothing. Yes, I know, we want the damn game already, but it's not a trainwreck because of two months.



  • @babpel91
    Thats my thought as well. Besides if it means a little extra technical polish, and some extra time to set aside some cash for my colletors edition, along with getting my media room finished



  • Having been a part of the day 1 shenanigans myself, I understand his position very well.

    Day 1 patches really sucks for people who can't get them, and they cause unnecessary overhead for the patching process which nearly doubles testing time (testing the disc product and then testing the disc product with the patch). A lot of companies use them to sneak in to getting released on time, but I'm glad they aren't going to do it. It's bad for the game and for the team. Also, they probably will be taking a monetary penalty hit from various retailers as a part of their contract. Games that are delayed too close to their release have flyers, marketing, storage planning, shelf space causes problems for the retailers, so they are compensated.

    Also, the 2 months delay is actually about how long it takes to produce and ship the disc. Especially in the holiday season, the queue to get your copies printed is long. Then shipping is like 1-2 weeks worth for a global shipping effort at every store. Not many people know the logistics of it if they didn't work in the industry. Since they want to include Day 1 patching, they'll have the gold master on Sept 30, and it'll start the production process at that point.



  • @babpel91 that isn't even close to true. Watch any video game making of documentary. A lot of games are entirely broken until the final 3 months.

    • RDR
    • somewhat TLOU to an extent

    Final 90s days is when your game becomes what it truly is a lot of the time.



  • I mean, the delay can't make anything about the game 'worse' but it can improve things. I have no complaints, though I'll probably have to wait until winter break to play it now.



  • @GoTaco That's what I'm doing right now, Golden on the Vita. 55 hours in, maybe a little over halfway through the game. To be fair though, I'm playing on Very Hard (which really extends your time) and I beat the original on PS2.

    @Stephleref They can't please their fans? Final Fantasy XIV may be the greatest turn around a game has ever seen in the history of gaming. Universally hated turned into universally loved, one of the most popular MMOs in the biz. I don't even like the genre but I respect how wonderful this game is. They created an entire new development team to focus on classic JRPG style games and just had the generally praised I Am Setsuna released mere weeks ago. They finally announced the Final Fantasy 7 remake fans have been clamoring for for years. I don't think a 2 month delay on a game that has obviously had a lot of problems means they've lost their touch. If you saw the showing that FFXV had at the Microsoft conference, it was pretty apparent the game was getting pushed back.

    Will Final Fantasy XV actually be good after the delay? Definitely sounds like a decent reason to delay the game but after playing both demos, I know it's not going to do much for me. I didn't care much for the characters and the thing you'll be doing most in the game, combat, just left me feeling underwhelmed. I still hope it does well though and I'm really hoping that when/if we get 16, turn-based combat makes a glorious comeback... I just wouldn't bet any money on that happening.



  • I really don't get the logic behind delaying it until after Black Friday, but not into February. This can only bode ill for its success.



  • I am 100% happy they delayed it. First impressions are everything, and FFXV is a game worth polishing to perfection. That being said, if they need more time like January/February, they should do it.

    On the topic of the Neo, I will be SHOCKED if it releases in 2016. Hardware leaks are insanely difficult to stop, and I have a hard time believing they've avoided any type of leak this close to Holiday 2016.



  • @ZyloWolfBane I guess the date is confirmed now so



  • I've waited for this game for so long, one last delay is fine in my book.



  • @Haru17
    To be fair it is a name brand franchise, so I don't really see it releasing after black Friday hurting sales that much. (Hell there are a handful of series that could release after black Friday and still sell like cocaine laced pancakes)