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The Mario movie cast reveal is legitimately the funniest thing I have seen in a long time. I absolutely died laughing, and then looking at the collective guffaw of the internet just killed me even more. It's truly beyond parody.
Anyway here's Dunkey reacting to it:
@ffff0 said in The EZA Forum Hall of Greats (September 2021):
Since this process took almost a month, I think 3 months break is a good interval (basically, doing next one in January, then in May, then in September). Preparing submission and discussing them afterwards takes significant amount of time, and if we do this too often, it will be like a job.
I don't think we should start the new one immediately either. Speaking personally, I had a great time but there's something a little exhausting about it, so I think spacing it out would be great. I for one would be cool with doing it quarterly, meaning we'd have 4 a year and the next one would be in December, but I'm cool doing it 3 times a year as well.
Now I'll talk about what I voted for and why:
I ended up giving Apex Legends my number 1 vote. I think ffff0 did a great job of explaining why the game is so good and how it figured out how to foster a good player base. I don't like competitive online games because of the toxicity, so I really appreciate how much time was spent talking about the social aspects that promote positivity. I've never played the game, and realistically I never will, but it was a very persuasive presentation for an unexpected pick.
I gave Majora's Mask my number 2 vote. It's my second favorite Zelda game and it's so wildly creative that I just had to give it something. Truly a masterclass in tone. The only thing that held it back was that Oscillator mentioned it was a worse game without a guide, but other than that a solid presentation.
Against all odds I gave FFVII my third place vote. I don't enjoy JRPG combat and I've never played the game, but I think Brannox did a great job of explaining why it has such an indomitable legacy. I also really appreciate that he mentioned the cheat codes, which I didn't know existed and greatly increase my chance of playing it. Also didn't know that a lot of content was missable because of meaningful choices, which sounds really cool.
THUG seems like a great game and DIPSET made a great presentation, skateboarding games just don't really pop out at me. They're something that needs to be played in order to understand how great they really are, but I've never played it so I don't have that connection. Tony Hawk games all sort of look the same from the outside looking in too, so that doesn't help.
Sands of Time seems like a fun game, and I played one of the later Prince of Persias and had a good time, there just appears to be a level of repetition that is somewhat uninteresting to me. I thought it was a great presentation by Sentinel Beach, and maybe when that remake comes out I'll be able to see first hand why it's so good, but right now it's just not grabbing me.
GTA Vice City seems like a fun enough game, and JD did a great job of explaining why he likes it so much, I just don't really care for GTA. They're games that I have a good time with, but the narratives rarely grab me and the humor is somewhat grating, and after a point the sandbox gameplay grows tiresome. Just not my favorite kind of game.
Also just wanted to thank you all for participating! I had a great time and it literally wouldn't be possible without you, so thanks.
I really like Alexander's idea so that's what I'll do. After going through the votes, everybody voted for at least one of the games, meaning that without having to reach out to anybody the winner of the tiebreaker is decided. With 3 votes to 2 (or 4 to 3, as we both voted for each other), the winner of the tiebreaker and second game entered into the Forum Hall of Greats is:
#2: The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask -- 8 points
Submitted by @Oscillator
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Congrats to Oscillator and those who voted. And that's it everybody. The first ever EZA Forum Hall of Greats is officially over! So, tell me what you thought, what could be changed, what worked, and if/when we should do it again. This was trial by fire but I think it worked out pretty well, but I'd love to hear what you're thinking.
Alright folks, here are the final three. I didn't include the votes this time, and I have edited the other post to get rid of votes too.
We'll start with the number 1 entry, the first game to be entered into the EZA Forum Hall of Greats:
#1: Final Fantasy VII -- 9 points
Submitted by @Brannox
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That's right the first game to enter the HoG is Final Fantasy VII, with a total of 9 points. Congrats to Brannox and those who voted for it!
This means that we have two games left, only one of which can be entered into the HoG: The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask and Katamari Damacy. Without further ado, here is the second place pick and the second game to enter the Hall of Greats:
#2: The Legend of Katamari: Majora's Damacy -- 8 points
If only it were that easy. In fact, we have a TIE, with both games getting 8 points total. We didn't talk about ties so I don't know what to do. Would love to hear what y'all are thinking.
@oscillator I just figured the Allies do a thing where we see what they voted for. Frankly didn't cross my mind that it would be secret, but fair enough if you'd all like I can make it secret next time.
Okay folks I have received all of the votes. I'll separate the reveal into two posts, with the second post coming later today. Before I start, I would just like to say that you all made really good presentations and brought really good games. You all did wonderfully regardless of how many votes your game got. I'd also like to say that every game got at least one vote, meaning nothing is banned. Hooray! Without further ado, the following games did not make it into the Forum Hall of Greats in the month of September 2021:
#7: The Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time -- 1 point
Submitted by @Sentinel-Beach
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#6: Grand Theft Auto: Vice City -- 3 points
Submitted by @JDINCINERATOR
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#5. Apex Legends -- 6 points
Submitted by @ffff0
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#4. Tony Hawk's Underground -- 7 points
Submitted by @DIPSET
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Massive respect to these games and the people that brought them. I will make the next post in a couple of hours that will first reveal the #1 winner, then reveal second place. See you then! Also shoutout to Axel for giving me the formatting ideas for this.
Alright folks, it is time to DM me your votes. As a reminder, here are the rules:
I will start to reveal the winners after I receive all the votes. For the sake of transparency I think it important to mention that I have already voted in order to avoid having your votes influence me. It wasn't easy! I also want to thank you all for participating. I think it was really fun and it wouldn't have been possible without you.
Anyway, here is the updated list of all the submissions and cross-examination questions:
Apex Legends
Final Fantasy VII
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
Tony Hawk's Underground
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
Katamari Damacy
If I made a mistake let me know. The list in original topic post has been updated as well. I encourage you all to look through everything again before you make your picks.
Question for @Oscillator regarding Majora's Mask:
You mention in your response to ffff0 that your enjoyment of the game increased a lot with the use of a guide. Do you think the game is a worse experience if you play it blind?
Question for @Sentinel-Beach regarding Sands of Time:
How's the difficulty? I know the whole gimmick of the series is that you can rewind time, but does this make the combat and traversal too easy? Are the stakes still there?
Question for @JDINCINERATOR regarding GTA Vice City:
Grand Theft Auto has a habit of leaning far too heavily into immature, on-the-nose humor, to the point where I think a lot of the neat world-building is somewhat invalidated by the jokes. How do you feel about the humor and the way in which it is integrated into the game?
Regarding T.H.U.G.
Rather than desperately trying to find a question to ask, I'm just gonna say I don't have one. Got no burning questions that need answering. Good presentation Dipset!
Gonna separate my questions into two games a post.
Question for @ffff0 regarding Apex Legends:
You mention that there is a story and that characters have interactions with each other, but since this is a multiplayer only game clearly that can't be the focus. Is there enough narrative there to make you truly interested in what happens next, or is the narrative completely unrelated to your enjoyment of the game?
Question for @Brannox regarding FF7:
Final Fantasy VII is one of those games that has been frequently lauded as one of the best of all time, and Square Enix knows this. It's been rereleased a thousand times, there is a CGI anime movie, spinoff games, and now a remake. Do you think FF7 suffers because of this over-saturation, because as a property it has to now carry all of this extra weight?