@nimbat1003 said in Disappointment of the Year:

I enjoy cyberpunk enough but it's in the same realm as fallout 4 and dragon age 3, it's just missing something/alot of things but is by no means a 76 or anthem.

Depends on what elements you focus on. Fallout 4 on PS4 shockingly ran without a hitch for me. Definitely wasn't my favourite RPG and definitely felt like a step down from other Bethesda games, but subjectivity aside, it functioned well enough.

Whereas my experience with Cyberpunk 2077 on PC has given me numerous crashes, is full of bugs, missing dialogue and has unmixed dialogue, has lots of placeholder art assets everywhere, and so many other fucked up problems I've encountered (on PC).

So for my money, CP77 is A LOT closer to Fallout 76 / Anthem than Fallout 4.

Also, not to beat a dead horse but Cyberpunk 2077 is a pretty big disappointment.

I wasn't excited through the roof or anything, but this game was a long time in the making and I obviously expected more from CDPR when they made one of my favourite RPG series in The Witcher. I was quite literally a 130 pound pipsqueak high schooler when the game was announced. I'm now an out of shape jaded adult haha. That's how much time passed since it's announcement and in that time CDPR hyped the shit outta this game.

Yesterday I went back and watched two pre-release CP77 videos. One was that PowerPoint presentation that the CDPR studio head Marcin gave back in like 2012. And the other was from the Xbox E3 event in 2019. Here are the promises from the 2012 video: https://youtu.be/OAATUe9uBI8

It's mostly subjective whether they delivered but I'd definitely say there is barely any connecting tissue to pen and paper RPG systems, let alone other common video game RPG systems for that matter. I feel like your skill checks, dialogue options, and freedom of choice are pretty limited. I can think of one or two instances in 20 hours where I even needed a skill check in dialogue and I've replayed scenes that ultimately play out the same way despite how I do things.

I wouldn't normally hold a PowerPoint presentation against them but the hype truly did start here when you make statements like: "SET NEW STANDARD IN THE FUTURISTIC RPG GENRE [...] If you don't believe me, play our Witcher games"

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Likewise, in the E3 video, they claim stuff like (paraphrasing) "Cyberpunk 2077 will be the next generation of role playing experiences."

Those are some pretty bold claims. It's one thing when fan expectations get blown out of proportion, but it's another when you make these claims, then give journalists a highly polished vertical slice preview build so they too report on how great everything is, then finally you release a half baked turkey.

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Ultimately, I can live with it. I've decided to put my game on pause and let the team keep cooking those sweet sweet updates, but I can't help but be a bit disappointed because I love these types of cRPG's.

@mbun

I basically love 99% of the output of Q-Games going back to Pixel Junk Racers back when my mind was blown away that you could download video games, but Eden was always the dark horse of their catalogue for me.

A) It came at a time when my dumb teenaged brain needed a bit more stimulation, and B) Something was always a bit "off" with the gameplay for me. I'm kinda surprised they gave it a sequel, but tbh I hadn't even heard of it until you brought it up. I might look into it just because I love Pixel Junk, but at the same time, maybe I should give the original Eden a better chance.

Vampire The Masquerade 2 delay and general news (or lack thereof) surrounding its production.

I actually have a lot of faith in the game. The original is a classic in my eyes and everything discussed and shown for this sequel is working for me, but you can't be firing the lead writer and series creator without even telling him why. I don't necessarily believe him. I feel like something nefarious happened behind the scenes to be honest but I can't substantiate that.

@phbz

I actually think the takeaway the writer was putting out there is that this isn’t unique to Cyberpunk. This happens all over the industry and it’s kinda similar to his other reports. Sort of like a loose “why even make games” sentiment hidden somewhere in there.

I feel like in my TV production world I hear people say things like “well when I worked on this show, we only needed 3 pose artists, so why does this show need 7?” and I can’t help but get annoyed because not all shows are made equal, they don’t all have the same budgets, talent, etc.

So it’s hard enough to schedule in an industry that is very pipeline driven with tried and true formulas for getting it done. I can’t even begin to imagine how to build a pipeline for a game with this much stuff going on. And obviously management doesn’t want to sit and wait to test out different options of production when they can just start DOING and adapt later.

Basically, I’m not surprised. Not sure what the fix for these massive games having development woes other than get less ambitious, don’t announce a release date and be open to stopping and reassessing problems as you go along.

Easier said than done. And what incentive do they have to change things? The game sold well and somehow reviewed well too.

@naltmank

I don’t think you’ll need a guide but just do all of Mementos. I actually enjoyed it but I respect the opinion of people who don’t like Mementos.

Either way, you gotta finish it to get the true ending.

The reveal trailer was insanely staged so the delay makes sense but I assumed they were going to just do a one month marketing push. I always prefer the 2-4 weeks campaign anyways.

But clearly I was wrong. They gotta get those $27.99 skins ready. Have Season 1-2 locked n loaded before launch.

@mbun

But like... Let's Go Pikachu for example has 5 cutscenes and they are barely animated. We're talking one walk cycle here. Cycles that already exist in other areas of the game. It's 2021.

Too far away. Just release the game Jan 21st, it's fine Capcom.