@el-shmiablo Time to reboot Dead Space.

@sabotagethetruth I just mean it isn't worth arguing over. You're going to enjoy it how it is. But in response to your counter, I don't think sticking to conventions of the franchise excuses it either, and that still doesn't explain why the goodbyes at the end take so long.

@bard91 said:

why do you gotta discretid an opinion like that because of an icon? surely we can have discussions of games without having yo invalidatw them because of one's shown preference.

When we're discussing extremely subjective matters, fanboy status is just a level of bias that's near impossible to overcome. I'm no better when talking about my favorite games, because of course I love them for being long and would wish them even longer if I could as to get to spend more time with them. It is just a different place than someone enjoying the game but not enough that they're okay with it doing anything to keep going.

I've heard enough echo my opinion on Persona 5's last stretch to know it isn't some crazy opinion that they stretched it out way too much right at the end. Even if I counted, not from defeating the big bad the story built up, but from the end of the last dungeon, it was still painful how crazy they stretched out the goodbyes of the characters in that game. Emotional farewells are great and all, but we needed some Oscar music to make them wrap it up, because you got the point ages before they let the credits finally roll. I don't think I've ever seen any other game drag out it's ending like Persona 5 did, and that's not even hyperbole. I literally can't think of an example of a game as guilty of that. Even Metal Gear Solid 4, with the abundance of cutscenes, seemed quicker to wrap up, and that game had excuses for taking it's time that a game like Persona 5 simply did not.

@el-shmiablo Knack with Ray Tracing.

@sabotagethetruth Not that I expect reason from someone with a P5 icon as their user icon, but the moment Persona 5 kept going like 20 hours more after you defeated the person the game built up the entire time as the main boss was when Persona 5 became too long. Would've accepted it as a true ending under special conditions or DLC bonus ending, but as something in the main game that you have to slog through for credits, after having already defeated the big bad in an already respectfully lengthy game, that was too much. Also, you know it was too much, because the true final boss just reuses the big bad of the game's boss theme.

Finally finished catching up on Pokemon Sun and Moon anime, and it might be the best anime series the franchise has ever had, but it isn't over yet so I guess there's still time for them to ruin the ending. Also, finally watched "I Choose You" and "The Power of Us" movies. I Choose You is a complete mess of a movie, and not just because of parallel universe Ash retelling shenanigans, but The Power of Us (which also uses parallel Ash) is legitimately a very good Pokemon movie. One of the best in awhile. Great characters in a great setting with lots of fun layers of plot happening on top of each other at once, so I definitely recommend that one to others.

@shoulderguy Will be expensive for sure. Kinda weird to see them going big again after the PS3 and Vita.

@DMCMaster Pricey, but that's also one hell of centerpiece for your entertainment room. Glad to see an interesting spin on these kinds of devices, even if I'm 100% not the target audience of this.

@E_Zed_Eh_Intern said:

I get to a point where the joy has almost completely fallen out and I'm just going through the motions to complete it. In recent years, this has included Breath of the Wild

Good thing you can finish that game at any time, to your discretion.

It isn't about length, just quality. The ideal game would be endless, and you'd never get tired of it. Games people frequently complain about being too long are only too long because the games try to stretch out the amount of meaningful content they have too far. So the length isn't the problem, the abundance of excess padding is.

@lotias said:

Do people find CG trailers exciting anymore?

When they're very stylistic expressions of the tone and vibes of a game and it's setting, yes. When they're just the ideal version of what a game's graphics could potentially be, no.

https://mynintendonews.com/2019/04/13/target-selling-xenoblade-chronicles-2-tomorrow-for-just-19-99/